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Toby Atkin-Wright ([personal profile] tobyaw) wrote2010-01-20 09:13 pm
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Coping with people you disagree with

People have all sorts of funny views.

Some people think that capital punishment is a good thing. Some people think that the government can spend its way out of a recession. Some people support abortion. Some people are happy that those on benefits should pay income tax. Some people think that football is worth watching. Some people believe in organised religion. Some people think that socialism is a good thing. Some people like going to nightclubs. Some people think that immigrants are taking their jobs. Some people think that Windows is a sane choice of operating system. Some people have no respect for age and experience. Some people like watching reality TV. Some people think that the monks who make Buckfast should be blamed for Glaswegians being unable to drink sensibly. Some people think there is an international Jewish conspiracy controlling the world’s entertainment and finance industries. Some people vote for the Liberal Democrats.

I don't agree with them. But I don’t let it bother me.

[Poll #1514207]

[identity profile] regan110715.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
How else are you supposed to deal with it? I mentioned this in my last blog. When someone you disagree with is talking with you, respect their views. You don't have to change your ways, chances are, that one person won't make you change anything, but the least you can do is respect what their saying, then you can say what you believe. It's not worth getting in a fight over because the world is so diverse, you have to understand that no one is the same and no one will ever be the exact same.
:) Regan

[identity profile] sharikkamur.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Education without coercion is always possible. Or is that just being hopelessly optimistic?

[identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think it necessarily does. Sometimes firm beliefs are based on an error so huge (or bizarre) that when it is finally illuminated the believer can't help but see the problem - it doesn't mean they were willing to see it or to listen to argument.
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-01-20 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You may be right in many or most cases; but there's an approach often referred to as "Strong Beliefs, Weakly Held", which may be productive, and to me seems worth aspiring to. Once you've formed a belief, be prepared to take decisions on that basis and stand up for decisions and belief when they're opposed; but be prepared to listen to the opposition and change your belief without fuss if the case is good.

It's supposed to be particularly appropriate in software development where decisions are often taken for what seem good reasons but later turn out to be wrong or ineffective. In principle it seems like it should be good in other areas too, but as you say it depends on a willing listener. (I think "student" establishes too many rigid expectations of an ongoing student/teacher relationship, when the roles could easily be reversed next time.)

I wasn't comfortable with any of the options, but I selected the three that came closest. A free text response might have been something like "Welcome the rich variety of people that make up the world. Assume that as an intelligent person they will grow out of their daft views, and as they become enlightened they will of course agree with you. Convince them through discussion that there may be a better way." My depth of response would vary depending on the subject.

But Macs are just wrong ;-)

[identity profile] hobbitomm.livejournal.com 2010-01-20 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Mostly I just smile, and look puzzled.

[identity profile] dianec42.livejournal.com 2010-01-21 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly I smile and nod politely, while I quietly determine which topics are off limits with that person.
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-01-21 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
On the basis of this (highly representative and scientific :-) poll, then, four people out of five would not be prepared to enagage positively with someone in an attempt to change their views? But they might sneer at them.

We all make that decision some, or even most, of the time, but what hope is there for civilised discussion and debate, if that's how most folk feel about it?

It would be interesting to see whether removing the word "coercion" from option 3 would change the result.

[identity profile] e-halmac.livejournal.com 2010-01-22 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you may win the prize for the best poll options.

[identity profile] sismith42.livejournal.com 2010-01-23 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you allowed multiple answers, because it depends on my mood and the situation.