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Toby Atkin-Wright ([personal profile] tobyaw) wrote2010-05-20 10:14 pm
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Compromise

Watching the BBC News coverage of the BA/Unite legal action, it struck me that the BBC’s correspondents seemed to be espousing compromise as the only sensible path for BA and Unite to follow, and they emphasised that ACAS was ready to provide arbitration facilities. Maybe this is an editorial line that fits easily into the BBC’s centrist ethos, but it strikes me that it is hard to justify.

BA is a loss-making airline with a pension deficit that is nearly double its market capitalisation. It pretty obviously needs to make some tough decisions in order to resolve its financial problems, just as our LibCon government is going to need to do with the nation’s finances.

But if any changes an organisation tries to make are met with hostility, and end up being curtailed through a process of compromise, then presumably the implication is that the organisation should adopt a more extreme position initially, so they get the result they want after the compromise. This might be second-nature for those who spend their lives negotiating, but I want to believe that a business can and should be run in a way that involves practical business-led decision making, with an honest presentation of its position. Maybe it isn’t possible in a heavily unionised business; how can a company have a relationship with its employees if there is a third-party organisation in the middle?

[identity profile] cuboid-ursinoid.livejournal.com 2010-05-20 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The union isn't a third party organisation. It is the employees. The employees voted over 80% for the strike action. People do not go on strike lightly. They don't get paid while they are on strike. Is Willie Walsh taking a pay cut while he is attempting to impose them on others?
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-05-21 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
In a competitive marketplace for jobs, I think striking should lead to sacking.

That would leave all the power in the employer's hands. I take your point about difficult decisions, and I like to believe the best of people - but it's a sad fact that if the workers don't have any leverage, some employers will take advantage. I have no idea whether this applies in BA's case. I'm not particularly impressed with either side - the union didn't dot its Is and cross it's Ts, and the company is using legal technicalities to thwart a pretty clear democratic decision.
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-05-21 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
But it’s not about power, leverage, or taking advantage.

It appears it is. Agreement on the substantive working practices has been reached in principle, but BA is intent on permanently withdrawing perks specifically from staff who struck - punishing them for exercising their right to withdraw their labour.

If the company were talking about withdrawing perks generally, that might be a reasonable change to working practices based on cost concerns. Withdrawing them from selected workers who've actively disagreed with management decisions (and already "paid" for it by losing their pay on strike days) is bullying.
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-05-21 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't it the management who have damaged the business by failing to keep the majority of their employees on side? Management are typically rewarded far beyond the level of normal employees on the argument that they are especially responsible for making the large profits the company wishes to see. If that's really justified - rather than a racket - then the flip side of that is that they are still especially responsible when there are problems.

Also worth pointing out that some people claim they're striking for the good of the company because cutbacks are affecting precisely the business class travel you mention; with business class passengers paying £3000 for a flight and only getting their third choice of meal, for example.

There's a relative aspect to costs as well as an absolute one; lost pay may be much smaller than lost business in absolute terms, but it could still be a big loss for the employee concerned.
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[personal profile] ggreig 2010-05-21 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Your definition of normal doesn't seem to agree with any in the dictionary!

(Correct me if I'm wrong but) I suspect you don't think striking can ever be justified, in which case we are never going to agree. I think it's an acceptable last resort, to be avoided by negotiation if at all possible; but if employers aren't prepared to negotiate it is legitimate.

As regards viewing the whole picture, I think perhaps companies could learn something from the armed forces, where there has to be a relationship of trust between the rank and file and their commanders. The common soldier may be expected to die for a bigger picture he can't see - a bit more extreme than the expectations of the average job role - but if the common soldiers are driven to the point of mutiny, they may well face punishment but the commanding officer is also regarded as having failed.

You mentioned below that few companies are run for the benefit of their employees. That's probably the heart of the problem. People will be more accepting of tough decisions if they feel they belong than when they feel they're being bought to work for the benefit of "corporate psychopaths". I'm not saying BA's management fall into that category - how would I know? - just that some of their employees may feel they do.

[identity profile] cuboid-ursinoid.livejournal.com 2010-05-21 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
BA is a very heavily unionised company so the 80%+ who voted for strike action probably represents a clear majority of the staff. BA has professional negotiators. Why shouldn't the staff. Seems only fair. I doubt very much Unite are trying to kill BA. That would lead to their members loosing their jobs. BA's staff do want to work.They don't want to take a pay cut and have their conditions erroded. The company won't automatically reinstate pay cuts, etc, if business turns up.

[identity profile] hobbitomm.livejournal.com 2010-05-21 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
ON the flip side, with 90% of the cabin crew being union members, 79% of ballots returned (which is a _really_ good turnout, incidentally), and 19% against, only 13.5% of the Cabin crew expressed an active opposition to striking.

That's still an overwealming mandate to strike. I think you have to wonder (given other Airlines aren't having the same problems) whether BA has set out to deliberately antagonise their union, or whether they've done it through gross incompetence. I certainly think this sort of dispute isn't in anyones interest- you just have to wonder how it can have reached this sort of level. Hard line attitudes on both sides, one assumes.

[identity profile] hobbitomm.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't think it was in the nature of 'We must break the Unions power'? I can see that being one of the objectives of someone trying one way of reducing costs. I don't think it's been handled well, and personally I think you can get more by negotiating than by the sort of heavy handed stuff that's been pulled so far (the injunctions, in particular, had a distinct smell of 'gamesmanship' rather than justice about 'em- which was the essence of the Judges remarks last week, iirc).